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2011.05.27. Off to Anime North!
See you there! The next update will be after the convention.
THERE IS A VISUAL NOVEL PANEL. And we didn't organize it!
What in the world is happening?! This is the first time since 2003 that there is a visual novel panel at Anime North! And in 2003, it was called "Bishoujo Anime" and only had us and the panelist! If any of the panelists are reading this, please mention one of minori's titles, either ef or Wind. It'd be a real shame to not have them mentioned in our home city!
So with that out of the way, we have the yearly tradition of our Anime North public itinerary!
FRIDAY
The first day of the con! There are two places where it's ideal to meet us. If you want our attention, just say "I WANT MY NO NAME LOSERS" or "ALWAYS KEEP MINORITY SPIRIT". Or hum one of the ef opening themes from the visual novel or the anime! That works, too!
5:30 PM - Bootlegs with Greg Ayres (TCC Sutherland)
You can watch this panel online but we'd like to see it live. May Greg grace us with his holy presence.
6:30 PM - Gokon (18+, Doubletree 1F Mississauga)
This
is simply a relax-and-greet event with cookies and such. If you'd like to chat with us, here's a good time for it. Since we're coming from the bootleg panel, we'll be there thirty minutes later than the scheduled start time of 6:00 PM.
9:30 PM - Tea Tasting (Doubletree 1F Terrace Room)
Another relaxing event. Again, a good time to chat with us if you'd like.
SATURDAY
Saturday is rather rowdy and full of personal events, so there's no time to suddenly meet us here. If you are able to meet us on Friday, perhaps we'll disclose our Saturday itinerary for you.
5:00 PM - MVC Awards (Doubletree 2F Plaza Ballroom)
There may be a slight chance you'll see our ef music video (see 4/28 update) here if it was a finalist. Cross your fingers! Maybe it might win something...
SUNDAY
The final day of the con, and the one with the visual novel panel!
1:00 PM - MVC Replay (Doubletree 1F International C)
Only the finalists are shown on Saturday. Those and all the non-finalists are shown here. If our ef music video didn't impress, you'll see it here. It goes on until 5 PM, however, so if you wish to attend the visual novel panel, you'll have to leave early.
3:00 PM - Visual Novels: An Overview (Doubletree 2F Ottawa)
Here we go! We're definitely filming this, of course. We really hope ef gets a good mention here! It's too SHINY and PRETTY to avoid! Note that it's not an 18+ panel, so we hope the panel isn't filled with OELVN stuff. It's not hosted by FAKKU this time around, so we expect a much more balanced panel, such as having more than a single commercial title mentioned.
This year has the potential to dethrone 2008 as the best Anime North of all-time if the visual novel panel is fantastic. Will it live up to the hype? Only time will tell!
We haven't forgotten the final part of the Anime Boston report. It'll be up in a few days!
Anime Central 2011 watch: All three ef AMVs we reviewed in our Anime Boston report also made the finals of the Acen MVC. There must be something that we're not seeing, because we unanimously agreed that Hideaway was a very poor AMV. (see 4/28 update)
2011.05.17. Pardon the interruption
There is much buzz around Kara No Shoujo, MangaGamer's latest announcement, and its apparent lack of voices. We're not in a position to comment on other MangaGamer titles. However, you may be curious if ef will meet the same fate. We can tell you now that minori does all voice work in-house, so we're 100% certain that voices won't be removed from ef.
The reason that KNS has a product page while ef doesn't is because KNS is further along the development process. Testing is done for KNS while we're still waiting. Patience is a virtue!
2011.05.11. Anime Boston report, part 3
Still no word from our superiors... but the show must go on!
We hope you've enjoyed the AB report so far. This part will be all about visual novels! After all, that's why we went to Anime Boston in the first place, right? All the fine people who donated to us want to know about the visual novel panel! But first...
The staff will be splitting forces and hitting up both Sakura-Con and Anime Boston this weekend. As the first big event of the year for the team, we are certainly looking forward to both events. Expect a lot of new products and our usual shenanigans. -- hendane.com
Hen Da Ne is an official partner of MangaGamer, so naturally we were interested in seeing their booth. We didn't take a picture of it, but we shall now present a highly accurate impression that would make Hiro Hirono blush!
1: These boxes were full of mostly yaoi ero doujinshi, sorted out alphabetically.
2: On the side were non-yaoi ero doujinshi, also sorted out alphabetically.
3: The visual novel display! Some were upright, some were flush on the table.
4: Body pillow sheets. Those black circles were yellow stickers to cover up the naughty bits!
5: The crowd in the hallway. The highly accurate impression allows you to imagine their skillful cosplays.
6: Hen Da Ne staff, but wasn't the same guy who appears at Anime North each year. Claimed to be a MangaGamer tester.
7: Other Hen Da Ne staff. We have no clue who he was.
What they didn't tell tell you was that the A-team was at SC, while the B-team was at AB. Unfortunately, it seemed the B-team didn't take any marketing classes. What went wrong?
NO BRANDING - Logos are key to promoting brand awareness. Hen Da Ne didn't have a logo. In fact, besides the stock sign given to all vendors in the dealers room, you wouldn't know that they were Hen Da Ne in the first place! By the second day, the stock sign disappeared, which is why it's not in our highly accurate impression.
See our logo at the top? That's been No Name Losers' logo for eight years! If we ran a booth, we'd present our logo so that anyone from a distance could see it! Even the Hirameki International booth at Anime North in 2006 and 2007 had prominent branding with its huge posters and the plastic fan giveaway! To drive home the point: the photo below is from the Toronto auto show a few months earlier. Note how you can see the company logos from at least ten meters away!
Okay, so Hen Da Ne doesn't like to advertise itself. But what about MangaGamer? While having dinner, we spotted someone with a MangaGamer tote bag. We asked him where he got it from. He couldn't name the booth, but he said it was the one with the "pin-up women" on sheets. So Hen Da Ne is known as the booth with the "pin-up women" instead of a visual novel dealer. What a reputation!
VISUAL NOVEL DISPLAY - The display had a grand total of one English product: Da Capo, which was mingled with a number of other Japanese visual novels. But the front of the Da Capo packaging has no English indicators, so it wasn't until we flipped it that we realized it was the English product! Besides this one item and the MangaGamer tote bags given with a purchase, there was absolutely no MangaGamer presence at Hen Da Ne at all! As for other booths, J-List's "Wall of Smut" had visual novels and eroge mingled with ero anime instead of making them distinct. And you wonder why visual novels aren't well-known in North America!
One member of NNL USA ended up purchasing this, which is the fandisc to this. Now why would we purchase a fandisc of some other title we've never played before? Well, because the art is SHINY and PRETTY. And that's a good enough reason for anyone!
NO YAOI GUY - Hen Da Ne always has a guy shouting YAOI at regular intervals at Anime North, thus attracting fangirls everywhere. Unfortunately, the B-team staff must have been introverts. Not a single peep from them!
Overall, a disappointing commercial presence for English visual novels. In addition, no minori presence at all, which saddened us. You can do better, J-List and Hen Da Ne!
Now on to the main event, the visual novel panel! NOTE: Some portions of the panel contained explicit nudity and spoilers, encouragement of illegal activities, and general boring and unfunny bits. Those portions have been edited out. In addition, the video is sped up in order to squeeze everything within YouTube's time limit. This has the side affect of making the panel sound much more amusing!
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We had several issues with the panel, mainly that only one title of the lot (Yume Miru Kusuri) is commercially available. There was a Q&A session after that final quip, so one of us asked a few questions! That video, along with our game show footage, will be up in the fourth and final part of the con report!
2011.05.01. Intermission
Part 3 of the Anime Boston report will contain our video footage, and we've got a lot to do before it's ready. It'll be up in about a week, perhaps.
Now that it's May, we need to update our loyal fans on what's happening with ef - the first tale. Unfortunately, its status is unknown at this time. Here is the approximate chain of events:
- minori submitted a build to MangaGamer sometime at the end of March.
- MangaGamer stated they would need to test it before giving it to us.
- MangaGamer tweeted that testing would begin in April.
- Then MangaGamer told us there were a few issues that minori needed to address.
- Since it's currently Golden Week in Japan, both parties likely won't give us anything until after May 5.
The North American anime convention circuit has already begun and is about to hit full swing. If there were hardcopy plans for ef, the opportunity to take advantage of convention sales is fading away. As seen in the last update, Anime Boston had FOUR AMVs with ef content. For an unlicensed anime series from 2007-08, that is almost unheard of. In fact, that outnumbered Fate/stay night (1) and Clannad (0). There is plenty of awareness for ef, so we thought it would've done well during this year's con circuit. Tick tock...
2011.04.28. Anime Boston report, part 2
In this part we'll be judging the anime music video contest, specifically the entries with ef in them, because nobody (besides minori) knows ef better than us. There were 30 videos (chosen from 145) over 6 categories, and awards were given to the best of each category, plus some additional ones: judges' choice, best concept, best editing, editor's choice, and best in show. Of those 30, four contained content from the ef anime. One of them (Speak No Japanese) has yet to be uploaded, but we'll review the other three.
(You may not be able to view some of the videos in certain countries. Blame YouTube, not us. As always, AMVs contain spoilers, so view at your own discretion. No Name Loser 4 refused to attach numerical ratings, believing that they undermine the reviews themselves.)
Hideaway by SPK (Romance) [the only dedicated ef AMV; lost to this]
No Name Loser 1: Pretty slow, almost boring AMV. It felt pretty random at times. The scenes from the actual music video didn't work so well. What I liked was that it wasn't packed with useless effects. But the competition must've been a joke if this made it to the finals. 3/10.
No Name Loser 2: I just wasn't feeling it here. The music didn't really connect to what is shown, and you wouldn't be able to guess the outline of Chihiro's tale from this video. Direction was rather random near the end as it tried to show the climax in a dramatic manner. For someone who never saw the show, it would raise more questions than anything. Definitely the weakest of the five romance entries. (winner listed above; see the other three here, here, and here.) 3/10.
No Name Loser 3: Some of the masking was decent... but I couldn't really get behind this AMV at all. Very plain, almost noobish, not very eye-catching, and within the first thirty seconds, I was already wanting it to be over... Just a terrible song choice, and a not-so-great selection of clips. 2/10.
No Name Loser 4: I couldn't judge this video fairly for two reasons: I don't like the song at all, and I don't like Chihiro at all. (gasp, blasphemy I'm sure...) ?/10.
No Name Loser 5: Well synchronized, and ran with it pretty strongly, but relied on it too much. There's expressing the song in the visuals, and then there's expressing yourself using the tools you have. This one only manages the former. In the end it felt amateurish, relying on the song too much to carry the weight. I also hated the song. Real AMVs, like art, tell their own stories, in spite of their components. 4/10.
Extraball by Shin (Fun/Upbeat) [winner; also won best editing]
No Name Loser 1: Yes, this AMV may have been about visuals, but ef especially felt out-of-place here. The partial lip-sync wasn't more than an attempt. Do it properly or leave it. Lots of pointless effects. 2/10.
No Name Loser 2: From thefreedictionary:
upbeat
adj. Informal marked by cheerfulness or optimism
I fail to see how this AMV was either. Being abstract doesn't give you an excuse to throw in random clips with no sense of direction. As for ef, it wasn't highlighted well. It could've been replaced with another anime and achieved the same effect. While the artistic vision was weak, the technical production was spot-on, so it wasn't a complete disappointment. 5/10.
No Name Loser 3: Nice concept and decent masking. Unforuntately, there were various instances in which the syncing wasn't as great as it could have been, but it was enjoyable either way. 6/10.
No Name Loser 4: I liked how the video constantly kept with the beat of the song. That syncing gave the video an overall impact. I also liked the song choice, and it did well to complement the various video clips. I guess if I had to complain, I'd be remarking on a few effects that were a hair overused, namely the zoom-in zoom-out effect, but at that point I'd just be nitpicking. ?/10.
No Name Loser 5: Nice effect usage, but honestly the excessive speed and color hurt my eyes a little. By trying to be so flashy, there was little to keep it together. In the end, it felt like it was all show, no meat. No depth of meaning or any kind of real emotion other than taking a ride with the song. Also didn't like the song, but that had no bearing on my score....really. 5/10.
A Prelude to Dreams by Shin (Other) [winner; also won judges' choice]
No Name Loser 1: Moderate use of external effects, catchy song. Pure enjoyment. Never got boring or annoying even though it's above AMV average length with its five minutes of running time. Only the Madoka footage seemed a bit overused. 8/10.
No Name Loser 2:Unlike Extraball, this abstract video was executed wonderfully as it had a tighter surreal and dreamlike theme. It still felt like a random clip show at times, so I can't give it full marks. However, it deserved to win its category, and I voted for this one. Hearing this on the Anime Boston sound system with its bloated thumping bass was pure joy. 8/10.
No Name Loser 3: Amazing. Just absolutely amazing. Beautiful song, great clip/video footage, and fantastic syncing. Best AMV I've seen in a long time. 10/10!
No Name Loser 4: Played the strengths of the song remix well. The visuals worked to match the pace of the music, keeping the constant feeling of motion active. The transitions were well done, with most close to being seamless. ?/10.
No Name Loser 5: I'm pretty sure I saw an AMV just like this two or three years ago. Same style, same transitions, similar song and newer anime clips. Otherwise, good pacing and transitions, but the flow choked occasionally. Choice of music was good, but could be better. Well, same could be said of anything. 6/10 if this was done by someone other than the person who did that AMV a few years ago. 4.5/10 otherwise. Do something new you *beep*.
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Shin was the big winner, nabbing four awards from two videos. But Shin didn't go to Anime Boston, and neither did many of the finalists. We think that's rather silly. Contestants should have a con pass in order to enter the AMV contest. Otherwise, someone from South America or Africa could impersonate someone and submit videos from animemusicvideos.org just to troll the contest.
So now that the ef AMVs have been reviewed by a panel of ef experts, you might be thinking, "Hmph! No Name Losers thinks they're so special! Who are they to judge? They couldn't do any better than these people!" Well, here's a little treat for you! Our take on our very own ef AMV!
It was a neat exercise, but don't expect us to become AMV fiends. Stay tuned for part 3 of the con report!
2011.04.25. Anime Boston report, part 1
Anime Boston has concluded, and No Name Losers had a great time! We're still transfering and editing the video footage we took over the weekend. There are a few things we need to reveal for the donors:
Only one person from NNL Toronto went to Anime Boston
The other person decided not to come at the last minute. However, the full amount of the donation money was still used.
Not many pictures were taken
We apologize for not taking pictures after promising many of them. We simply didn't have a professional-grade camera on hand. Besides, there are many other sites that will post the excellent cosplay we saw over the weekend. In addition, the members of NNL USA have requested privacy, so there will be no pictures or video footage of them.
But we did shoot some videos!
We recorded 3 events: Anime Jeopardy, Family Feud, and of course the visual novel panel. You'll see them as soon as we edit them and get a few other things sorted out.
The damage?
Since the majority of the money spent at Anime Boston was not ours, we carefully recorded how the money was spent. Consider this the first part of the con report! In ef - a fariy tale of the two, Chihiro rates all her meals in her diary, and so we shall do so as well! If you're thinking of heading to Anime Boston next year, you'll know what to eat and what to avoid!
- Bus ticket/re-issue: Standard fare via Greyhound Canada. No discounts. On Sunday night, the were no more busses heading directly from Boston to Toronto, so the ticket had to be revised to accomodate a detour to New York City. This cost $15.
- Weekend pass: The extra 50 cents comes from the PayPal transfer fee.
- Hotel room share: No Name Losers ended up bunking with another party. 11 people in total used the hotel room. The share was calculated at $42 plus the PayPal transfer fee.
- Currency conversion: The $CAD might be slightly stronger than the $USD at the moment, but an exchange store will use worse rates plus charge a service fee. It cost $46.12 CAD to provide $40 USD.
- Dasani: Water bought at Buffalo, NY. Anything with TER means it was purchased at a bus terminal, which naturally charges high prices at vending machines. It didn't taste that much different than regular water. 5/10.
- Crunch bar: Frozen dessert bought at Albany, NY. The reason it was $1 became clear after reading the label: it didn't use real chocolate or real dairy ice cream. Yuck. 3/10.
- Turkey breast: Bought at Poulet Rotisserie. Though a little dry, it tasted good, but the serving portion was too small for the cost. Served with two spoonfuls of rotini and corn. 6/10.
- Pineapple Guava: Bought at Gourmet India. More precisely, it was this product. It was tasty, but it was only 21% juice, so a few points have to be docked for that. 62 grams of sugar certainly isn't healthy. However, on the receipt was a $2 coupon for the next purchase, but only redeemable on weekdays. That meant it had to be spent on the same night. 6/10.
- Indian chicken: Gourmet India again. The dinner consisted of spicy curry chicken, curry potatoes, rice, and two deep-fried onion balls. Combined with the $2 coupon, all this was only $7.44! Lots of food for the cost, and very satisfying. If you want something good and filling while remaining modestly priced, this store is arguably the best in the Prudential Center food court. Just buy the drink first. 9/10.
- Banana nut bread+: Bought at Starbucks. The bread was nothing special, but was purchased in order to gain access to Starbucks' all-you-can-drink milk. Bringing a packet of cereal and a few tea bags over the border turned out to be the most economical move of the trip. Basically, it was a filling and nutritious meal for under three bucks. 8/10.
- Awesome crab cake: Bought at Legal Sea Foods via take-out to avoid tipping. WOW this was amazing. Not only was the crab cake succulent, but it also came with a house salad and three warm dinner rolls. They don't make crab cakes like this in Toronto. This was filling enough to not require a dinner later, which is always good. You want to spend as little time as possible eating on Saturday due to the packed schedule. 10/10!
- Worst ramen ever: Wagamama was a sponsor for Anime Boston, providing vouchers as prizes for certain events (such as Anime Jeopardy) and hosting the ramen eating contest. Unfortunately, they make the worst ramen ever. Less filling than even the turkey breast meal: the amount of noodles provided was less than two packs of instant noodles. The ramen was also advertised as "chili chicken" but neither the chicken nor the broth was spicy at all. With its small portions and extravagant costs, it's no wonder they can give away vouchers. Don't eat here. 2/10.
- Fanta Grape: Bought at New York City. 81 grams of sugar, oh my! It actually tasted pleasant, though $2.50 for an artificial drink is quite high. 5/10.
- Microwaved burrito: Bought at Buffalo, NY. There was a one-hour stopover on the way home, so a quick snack was needed. Inside, there were no more than two dice-sized chunks of chicken, and the cheese looked and tasted like Cheez Whiz. 2/10.
- Cashews: A small packet of cashews were purchased in order to wash away the burrito taste. It served its purpose, though it was also overpriced for the amount of cashews in the packet. 5/10.
- Donations: PayPal makes billions of dollars by taking a percentage of your money from every transaction. The $103 donation ended up being $98.68 after the fee. Oh well.
- Random donation at the con: On Sunday, one of the hotel roommates asked about lunch, then donated $20 plus a quarter because all the American money had run dry. This was mostly spent on the worst ramen ever.
Once again, thank you to all the donors who contributed to the Anime Boston fund! Stay tuned for more upcoming reports!
2011.04.20. We're going to America!
You, the public, have raised $210 for our trip to Anime Boston! While this doesn't cover the entire cost, a little goes a long way! The highest donor ($103) will obtain our minori support disc as a token of our gratitude! By the way, we got zero donations from the Japanese. hevoluson's talk was just that; talk. Oh well!
To recap, we'll be at the visual novel panel (Sunday 12:01 AM) for sure, and definitely Anime Jeopardy (Friday 8 PM) as well. The rest of our schedule is to be determined, but if you really want to meet us, those two events are your best bet! Since there may be a lot of people, shout out "I WANT MY NO NAME LOSERS" or "ALWAYS KEEP MINORITY SPIRIT" to get our attention. Or make a sign if you're shy. Ho ho ho!
See you in Boston!
2011.03.29. The monthly update
By now you have heard about the terrible events that have taken place in Japan. Although much damage was done, nothing can take away the miracle of hope. MangGamer is currently holding a sale where the proceeds will go towards post-disaster relief efforts. Please donate if you can.
We contacted minori about two weeks after the disaster, and they are safe, but work has been affected due to lack of electricity. However, MangaGamer has told us that we might finally receive something next month. We don't know why it's been taking so long, but at least we have some sort of a date now.
Again, all we can do is sit tight while minori and MangaGamer prepare the alpha build for us. Please bear with us for just a little longer.
2011.02.28. Footsteps of Spring...
February has come and gone. As Spring is about to be delivered to your heart as soon, you may be wondering about what's happening.
* There has been little direct communication between us and minori, as MangaGamer has insisted that they handle everything up to testing. Therefore, we have remained idle for the past two months. This is rather unfortunate, as we have been left with nothing but questions. The status of the optimizations we applied is still unknown.
We apologize that things are taking so long, but it's currently out of our hands. However, we are confident that MangaGamer has things under control and will allow us to be part of development soon.
* Testing for first tale is scheduled to begin next month, according to MangaGamer. No word on the release date yet. We want this out just as much as you do, so please be a little more patient. We appreciate it!
Any further developments will be posted as soon as possible.
2011.01.31. Keeping in touch...
Our initial announcement told you to wait until at least February for ef. Now that February is around the corner, it's only fair that you get an update on what's happening.
* ef - the latter tale (chapters 3 through 7) has been submitted after another translation review. Therefore, both first commits for both games are currently in the hands of minori. If there's one reason to purchase MangaGamer's ef, it's that over 5000 text blocks have been changed from ef Lite. Stepping up our translation to professional grade was certainly no simple task. Testing is still to be done, of course, but we have yet to obtain anything from MangaGamer as of this update.
* At MangaGamer's request, we have restored virtually every single text block (about 250) that we had originally edited out. The remaining text blocks are either ones that contradict what is displayed on the screen, or text blocks that contradict events in the story. You can rest easy knowing we didn't cut anything because we felt like it.
* We can't give you a release date estimate for either title, since it's not our decision to set that. However, we hope we can make it before the North American anime convention circuit, to maximize the chances of a limited-edition hardcopy. Who knows...
* The status of optimizations we performed, such as movie subtitles, faster transition speeds, and image compression, are still unknown. Same with the status of ef first fan disc and ef second fan mix: both are fully translated but have not been confirmed. We'll get back to you on those soon.
Please wait just a little longer!
2010.11.28. Quick update...
We submitted a revised copy of the ef - the first tale (chapters 1 and 2) scripts to MangaGamer. There was quite a bit we changed in order to step up our localization to professional grade. For chapter 1, the text was improved in a number of areas because we discarded the original edit. Chapter 2, which had sections not originally done by us, contained various inconsistencies against our grand style guide. We tuned those portions as well.
There's some good news on the horizon, but we don't have the authorization to reveal anything yet. Thank you for your continuing patience!
2010.10.01. Mini-survey [CLOSED]
Lost in the good news is the fate of Wind -a breath of heart-. We released the patch for that game a long, long time ago, and it's the one thing out of all our fansubbed work that is still significant to this day. At the moment, the cheapest Mangagamer title is 20 euros (approx. $28). It would be a shame if Wind is lost forever, so perhaps it may have a second life as a super-value title, much in the vein of GOG titles. With that in mind...
Q1: Would you like us to pursue Wind in the future? 74% YES, 26% NO (412 votes)
Q2: Do you believe 7 euros ($10) is an appropriate price for Wind? 86% YES, 14% NO (413 votes)
Note that there haven't been any talks of this, so these two questions are purely speculative. We appreciate your input!
Q: No Name Losers and minori have had a history with one another; from Wind, to Footsteps of Spring, to ef. Is there a certain reason as to why your group has insisted in translating only minori games?
To understand the affinity that No Name Losers has with minori, one must look back at the group's founding. We had a blurb that explained this:
"A quick look at our fansubs page will reveal that a good chunk of our work is associated with titles from minori. A month before No Name Losers formed, we happened to stumble across a site called Omoi Wa, which had screenshots of minori's newest game, Wind -a breath of heart-. You have to remember that back then, western bishoujo game fandom consisted of a few Megatokyo fanboys who only knew of Kanon and Air. Wind looked much better than those games. Kana Little Sister had yet to be released in English! Family Project and Baldr Force were still regular games instead of legendary classics!
The reason we started fansubbing bishoujo game openings was that no one had done them. Wind was the first one, and the rest is history. minori will always hold a special place in our heart for being the company whose games most influenced No Name Losers' direction. So yeah, we're the ultimate minori fanboys!"
(Yes, Baldr Force was released after No Name Losers was formed in July 2002. But we can't really name another well-known classic in that era, except Utawarerumono, of which we didn't sub the opening. We subbed the openings to Family Project and Baldr Force.)
Through the years, minori has raised the bar in eroge presentation. ef was a grand experiment, and with over 2500 unique background and event CG (over 6000 if you include all variations), it stands as the largest eroge of all-time in terms of art and production value. Their unique approach to this medium parallels our unique approach to fansubbing, so it's an ideal collaboration. As you may know, No Name Losers handled fansubbing in a way that virtually every other group refused to consider, which was closer to dynamic equivalence. We're not declaring that our method is better and that everyone else is wrong. However, this is the method in which the team is most comfortable. We'll continue to use this approach, just like how minori will continue to emphasize their own values in their works.
Q: No Name Losers' stance when they released the Wind patch was to require checks to prove that the downloader actually owned the game, leading to the infamous "break the support disc" debacle. This is the opposite to how ef was released. What caused such a 180 on No Name Losers' release policy?
The check was the choice of either a photograph of the packaging, or one timed question, dubbed the Supah Hamonika Test. This was only supposed to happen for the first two weeks, since we wanted to reward actual buyers of the game. Then it would be made public. All this was mentioned on our site. However, a number of impatient people tried to beat the test, thus wasting all twenty prepared questions with silly answers.
Sometime around 1 AM on the following day, the notice of destroying the support disc and the customer feedback postcard (which everyone forgot) was put up. By 6 AM the notice was gone from our site. However, Visualnews (the predecessor of Gemot Encubed) refused to amend their news update, though we had requested they take the article down. Therefore, a notice that was up for about five hours on nnl1.com spread like wildfire, since many people believed what was on Visualnews.
By the time the Wind patch was publicly released in February 2007, Wind DVD PC was no longer available for retail sale at Erogeshop. Therefore, we didn't care how users obtained Wind because there was no realistic western alternative. When the ef project began, ef - the first tale was unavailable at Erogeshop. With no way to feasibly obtain the game short of buying it used in Japan, we decided on a standalone release. The "community" considered this heresy because minori wouldn't be compensated at all. However, if the only way to obtain ef - the first tale was used or via a deputy service, minori wouldn't receive a single yen anyway. Digital fansubs work on the same principle, so anyone can see that the double standard is foolish. We simply cut through the hypocrisy and made things simpler for the player. All team members who imported actual minori products approved of this. Soon after, minori geoblocked their site, which vindicated our decision.
When ef Chapter 1 was released, the successor of Visualnews, Gemot Encubed, reported the news in a very biased manner. Most people are unaware of this, but the current #denpa @irc.synirc.net was spawned off the ashes of #nnl, and some people involved in the transition (who are also Gemot Encubed staff) hold a personal grudge against us. From "break the support disc" to "eternal flame" and beyond, we feel that Gemot Encubed has presented articles with significant bias against us, and this is why we consider them a propaganda site. They have never contacted us for any clarifications or elaborations on news relating to No Name Losers.
Q: I would like to know the full story behind how you went from the antagonists of minori, to this alliance with them. Please speak from what happened after those public e-mails. Was the CEO of minori generally easy to talk to? Did No Name Losers really fly to Japan to go see minori at their headquarters?
Our apologies, but we cannot disclose much of our discussion with Mr. Sakai or Mangagamer. However, we can tell you that we didn't fly to Japan, and that being professional and courteous is the key to mutual understanding and co-operation. Contrary to what Gemot Encubed may report, our e-mail to minori was responded to in under 24 hours, and for the next week, they focused their efforts on nothing but trying to come up with a solution. (この数日、これ以外の案件は何もしていないと言っても過言ではありません) Mr. Sakai was very enthusiastic about the whole procedure.
Q: minori was big on the ratings issue. They wanted their games to go through the right channels if they were to be released overseas. What was the resolution to this problem?
Mangagamer is handling all aspects of distribution, so that made things easier.
Q: Do you think that this incident will lessen the tension between Japanese eroge fans and eroge fans who live overseas? Will the Japanese companies continue to be intolerant of overseas use of their products?
There's still a long way to go. Most importantly, the western market has to matter to them. Also, the general public has to be more tolerant of eroge and not dismiss them as cartoon child pornography. Until then, there will still be tension.
Q: Kouryuu mentioned recently in his interview that he encourages all translation groups to make an attempt at contacting the original Japanese companies. Would you advise the same? If yes... what are some dos and don'ts?
We're not in a position to give out advice. That being said, digital fansub groups don't contact the Japanese companies either. Holding eroge fansub groups to a different standard seems questionable.
Q: Anything else you would like to comment on for the fans? As fans, what is the best way we can support you and minori during this stretch of time?
Buy ef! Some people have played it already, but remember the original goal of fansubs: to encourage awareness in the hopes of an eventual localization. Now that it's happened, it's up to the public to determine what happens next. If ef does well enough, you'll see more minori games in English in the future. We'd love to have the opportunity to do eden*, or minori's upcoming project, Supipara.
Q: What was Swells? Was it real, or just a troll project?
Swells (the codename of the project, not the actual game name) was very real, but we cannot reveal what it is. We still have some hope of contacting the company responsible for it in an attempt to bring it over someday.
2010.09.27. ef - a fairy tale of the two gets an official release
It's a dream come true! Negotiations between No Name Losers and minori have been successful, and ef will soon be distributed through Mangagamer. Mangagamer has a full lineup of releases until February 2011, so please wait until then!
We are thrilled to be finally co-operating with minori. A few months ago, if anyone told you that minori and No Name Losers would reconcile, you'd give them a funny look! But here we are today, in a landmark moment that will hopefully repair any lingering tensions between minori and their western fans! Our most sincere thanks goes to Mr. nbkz Sakai, the CEO of minori, and bamboo, the CEO of OVERDRIVE. They were the ones who made this all possible.
There will be a number of changes from the fansubbed version in order to accomodate a broader audience:
- ef will be split into the original "first tale" and "latter tale" versions. It was our desire to keep the versions merged, but minori requested this.
- Translation has to step up to professional grade, so we can't throw in any more junk text blocks. As a result, localization will be tighter: no more Iraqi journalists or SUPAHs! Hurrah!
- Our previous honorific guideline was confusing for many people. To correct this, honorific usage will be streamlined instead of having exceptions for Chihiro and Mizuki. Idiosyncrasies of characters, such as Yuuko's weird mannerisms (she uses -masu form to the point of annoyance), will be retained.
- Certain terminology and vocabulary will be changed to comply with western laws. All characters are 18 or over!
- Bad end 5, the fake ending that was included for humor, must sadly be removed. Here is the script, free of charge! Special thanks to tester zerokirby15 for providing such wonderful fan fiction.
- Now that we have minori's support, the technical issues we encountered will hopefully be fixed. Memories (flashback) and configuration will completely work!
The following still needs to be discussed with minori:
- Enhancements (transition speeds/upsampled music/compression)
- Prerelease fandisc (First Fan Disc/Second Fan Mix) content
At the moment, we are currently only contracted for ef. If it does well enough, we'll be able to pick up more minori titles in the future. Thank you for supporting minori and Mangagamer!
UPDATE: There are some news reports stating that eden* has also been picked up. This is false; the fate of eden* is still unknown.
UPDATE 2: Oops, it seems the official Mangagamer press release mentioned that eden* was picked up. Well, we don't know anything about it, honest!